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Rear seat heat for my RV8A
-8A Rear Tie-down Mod
Bent Control Sticks - Not my idea, but some good info
Landing light installation by Ray Lynn - Pictures are of Bob Hall's RV-6
Navaid installation by Ray Lynn
Rudder trim by Ray Lynn
Rudder horn / cables fairing by Dick Martin
Tail spring fairings / stream lined rudder horns by Butch Malani
GPS Pilot III installation in the back of an RV-4
Jon Johanson's Performance RV seats I LIKE THESE SEATS!
RV-8 Fuel Gauges Mounting
"Tip-Up / Slider" Canopy for the RV6, RV7, and RV9
Carl Froehlich's Tow-Bar
 
Dremel Tool Angle Attachment
Mechanix Wear Gloves
Dimpling Table
Rod End Bearing Installation Tool
Cleco Apron - Best $2 I ever spent...
Custom bucking bar for flaps
Debur the inside of control surface skins
New pins for my Tatco Squeezer
Rib positioning tool
Engine cart
Driving the two inside rivets on the Rudder Horn
I built a very strong 3' x 8' table for my shop.  Download my table plans here
 

 

Rear seat heat for an RV8A by ME

RV8A_REAR_HEAT.jpg (77542 bytes) I have been working on a way of getting heat to the pax in my -8A and think I know how I am going to do it...

I am going to cut 2" holes in each of the F-802R bulkheads and install Van's flanged ducts in the holes for scat tube to attach. Then run the scat along the sides of the fuse just under the F-864 left console, and F-8101 right console.  I will make some .032 covers that will attach to each console to cover the scat.  I will have to make some vents that the scat will attach to that will sort of wrap around, and attach to, the F-804C center section uprights.  The vents need to be high enough to not interfere with the rear seat rudder pedals.  I want these vents to extend back far enough so that a hole on the bottom of the vent will blow heat on the pax's feet.  The rest of the heat will be blown directly down the sides of the fuse to the back seat...

I talked to Ken Kruger at Van's about putting the holes in the F-802R bulkheads and he said on the -8A, those were basically glorified skin stiffeners, and it wouldn't be a problem, especially if I rivet the flanged ducts in them...  He also told me that he knew of a guy that put holes in his landing gear boxes for scat tube, the plane had an engine-out and pancaked in causing the gear legs to bend up about 90 degrees from original, and there was no damage to the landing gear boxes.  That said, you my consider this installation for your -8 as well...

It should be a pretty simple installation, except for making the vents, but maybe we have a master metal worker in our midst that could come up with an easy way to make them...  Any and all comments gladly welcomed...

 

-8A Rear Tie-down Mod by ME

fuse61.jpg (52050 bytes) I decided I didn't want to waste a perfectly good hole and drill another for the rear tie-down, so I decided to move it from the F-812 to the F-811...  I made the tie-down mount as per the plans except that the threaded AL block is flush with the aft side of the bracket (away from the -811), and mounted it to the -811 instead of the -812. I will mount it using 470AD4 rivets... 
fuse62.jpg (49711 bytes) I will probably make a doubler for the -812 where the VS mounts at the bottom where the bolts go through because normally you would have either the tail wheel weldment or the tie-down brackets there to act as a doubler...
 
Bent Control Sticks
I was looking at the control sticks in a Pioneer 300S and though they just might fit the bill for a bent control stick in an RV that everybody has been talking about...  This one is made from 6061-T6 Aluminum...  I kind of like the stick grips too...


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Landing light installation by Ray Lynn

FrontSideView.JPG (42876 bytes) The lights were purchased from a local auto parts store.  They have 55 watt Halogen bulbs.  You have to remove the wing tip to change the bulbs, but hey, their Halogen, so how often will you have to do that?
profile.jpg (20404 bytes) On this installation, bob made an aluminum mount for the bottom inside of the wing tip that the light's original mounting brackets attach to.
wingview.jpg (41375 bytes) Once the lights are mounted and aimed, they are glassed into the tip.

Ray also designed his own wig-wag flasher that I will post when I get more info...

 
Rudder horn / cables fairing by Dick Martin
dickmartin.jpg (58567 bytes) Another mod that Dick made recently was to the rudder cable area.  He built some fairings that not only cover the rudder cable exits from the fuselage but also the rudder control horn. Notice how the fairings go all the way back and protect the rudder horn.  They look pretty easy to make and I'll be using this idea on my plane.   He has also removed the tail wheel steering springs.
 
Tail spring fairings & stream lined rudder horns by Butch Malani
BMalani1.jpg (90480 bytes) I won't have tail springs on my -8A, but I like the stream lined rudder horns... Bmalani2.jpg (90145 bytes)
 
Navaid installation by Ray Lynn
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In my opinion the "only" place to install the Navaid is on the right side in front of the spar carry through.  (At least in the RV-8).  Don't know if this can be utilized on the RV-8A with modifications as the gear attachment points occupy some of this area.  Wherever the unit is installed, the principals of the linkage should be adhered to.  I was very impressed with the Navaid unit itself but think they did not do their homework on installation.  The suggestions offered by Navaid allowed the servo arm to work in a non-linear relationship with the arm on the control tube.  This installation solves that problem as well as makes the unit assessable.

First off, I used a piece of 3/4 x 3/4 .063 angle pop riveted to the floor (since I had already closed the floor by then).  The hard support box was made from some pieces of scrap .050 Al I had.  Size is 5-3/4" across by 2-3/4" high in the rear tapered to 2-1/4" in the front so that the top surface of the unit is level.  Dimension front to rear is 3-3/4".  This three sided box is attached to the angle with 8-32 screws and plate nuts.  I drilled and tapped the right side mounting points with 8-32 tapped holes in the lower longeron.  Position of the box is not super critical but the push/pull rod should be roughly parallel with the spar carry through and low enough to clear the front cabin brace.

The lever arm on the control tube is offset forward and bolted through by the control tube pivot bolt.  It is offset forward by 15/16 ".  The arm is made from 1/8" Al and is shaped to fit tightly inside the channel on the pivot bracket.  Additionally, I back drilled (after bolting up the assembly) with a #19 drill and installed a 8-32 socket head cap screw and stop nut (it's close quarters in there) to  further fix the assembly.  The holes for attaching the push/pull rod from the servo were drilled at 1.4", 1.6", 1.8" above the pivot point bolt centerline.  The 1.4" hole should be used with the 1.0" hole on the servo arm of the Navaid.  The 1.6" with the 1.2", and the 1.8" with either the 1.2 or 1.4" servo hole.  This allows full travel of the ailerons which is about  +/- 2-7/8" of travel.  Anything different than this will cause the servo unit to hit it's stop before the ailerons hit their stop.

Navaid normally ships the servo unit with the output arm positioned "down".  If not yet shipped, they will position the arm "up".  It's a pain to do this reversing so better to let them do it.

I have not flown this arrangement yet but it is engineered so that the driver arm on the servo is always parallel to the driven arm on the control tube and the ailerons hit their stops just before the servo hits it's smaller and less strong stops.  As a result, it has to work better than the proposal they made.

I am also installing a switch on my stick which is connected to a relay (Bosch automotive) in the power wiring from the Navaid panel unit to the servo so that I can engage/disengage the autopilot using the stick switch.

 

Rudder trim by Ray Lynn

First off, the design is very "clean and simple".  My plane is an RV 8  with ground adjustable rudder pedals so my exact scheme would have to be adapted to the standard pedals as well as to the  8A, 6, 6A, 4.  My plane is not flying yet but one of the fellows in the local group adapted it to his RV 4 and is very happy with the system.

The left side rudder pedal is spring loaded from an anchor point on the left gear box.  The spring is connected to the anchor.  The other end of the spring is attached to a 1/16" cable that runs through a nylon pulley (bought at the hardware store -- patio door wheels with roller bearings) then the cable is attached to the rudder pedal arm 3" above the pivot point of the pedal arm.  The pulley center is attached to the firewall angle 3" above the floor.  This allows the cable to pay off directly in line horizontally with the connection on the arm.  I made the pulley mount brackets by cutting a circular hole (about 1/16" greater in diameter than the pulleys) in a piece of 3/8" thick aluminum and cutting off a portion of the plate/hole.  This was mounted to 1/8"  Al plate.  This serves to mount the assembly and to keep the cable contained.

The right side was identical except I had to space the pulley away from the firewall angle to the left since the right side cable/spring must go inside the pedal arm.  No clearance to the outside since the front baggage vertical closure sheet gets very close to the pedal assembly.

At this point the right side is different from the left.  The adjustment device was made by drilling a 1/4" dia. hole as close to one edge of a 5/8 H x3/4 W x1L block of aluminum as possible.  Then grind off about 1/8" from the 5/8 dim., enough to make a small "flat side of the hole".  Mount this on a piece of 3/4 x3/4 .063 angle with a hole in the vertical to bolt through using the attachment bolt that the rudder cable pivot bracket is mounted with.  The angle was riveted to the block with a couple of  470 rivets.  Now, take a piece of 1/4-20 all thread ( I used brass) about 6" long, turn or grind the threads off one end and drill a hole for the spring.  Then carefully grind down one side of the rod so as to provide a flat that fits your previously build "flat hole".  Any kind of knurled or other wheel can be used.  Simply drill and tap the wheel with 1/4-20.  Install stop nuts to prevent backing the adjustment wheel off or jamming the spring.

The spring I used was 7/16 x 10-1/4 x .041.  Century Spring Corp. #C-311.  Available in most hardware stores.  Will have to experiment to see if this spring is strong enough.  Make sure that the spring is not shorter than this as it will not be consistent with extensions much over 1/3 of its length.  With the respective pedals fully relaxed I allowed about one inch of tension remaining on the spring.

Hope this is clear enough.  If not let me know.  Ray

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RV-8 Fuel Gauges Mounting

This is Lee Lesher's RV-8 fuel gauge mounting panel he made...  It is also the cover plate that goes over the fuel selector...  The handle on the fuel selector points to the tank the selector is on at the time...  Very similar to what we -8A builder get from the factory...
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Carl Froehlich's Tow-Bar
This is made from a single 10' piece of the 1/2" copper pipe (not the thin wall stuff, the standard wall), and assorted fittings.

Carl Froehlich, RV-8A (flying), Vienna, VA
 

"Tip-Up / Slider" Canopy for the RV6, RV7, and RV9

Rich Meske of Columbus, OH invented this "Tip-Up / Slider" Canopy for the RV6, RV7, and RV9 aircraft...  VERY COOL...  You can get more information and buy a kit for your RV HERE!
 

Dremel Tool Angle Attachment

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I got this Dermal Right Angle attachment for X-mass.  You can get them at Wal-Mart for about $25 I think...  I used it to today to do some drilling and it worked great!  I even used it to drill out a couple rivets, no problems.  I recommend this tool to any Dermal user...

 

Mechanix Wear Gloves

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Here is a pair of Mechanix Wear gloves I also got for X-mass...  They are great!  They were designed by, and for, motorcycle mechanics, so you still have very good dexterity while wearing them.  These were purchased at a local auto parts store for about $20.

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Dimpling Table
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This is the set-up I used to dimple skins up until the last (right) elevator.

dimple2.jpg (52889 bytes) It worked, but was awkward, and difficult to manage.
dimple3.jpg (49330 bytes) I finally broke down and built a dimpling table.  I have an Avery dimpling tool, I do not know if this table would fit all dimpling tools.
dimple4.jpg (55970 bytes) It works great!  I saw a picture of one of these on the web once, but could not find it again, so I made it from memory.  It was easy, and I wish I would have made it a long time ago.
dimple5.jpg (46131 bytes) Materials List: 2ea. 2"x2"x8' pine, 2ea. 1"x2"x8' pine, and 1 2'x4'x1/4" hard board.  It cost me about $12 to make this one.

You have to cut the 2x2's to the proper lengths to frame the hardboard, and make a notch for the dimpler, then cut matching 1x2's that will be attached to the 2x2's with glue and screws to give the proper height, and then attach the hardboard with glue and screws.

Then I slid the dimpler in under table, put the male dimple die in the rod of the dimpler, and poked a hole in the hardboard.  Then I just drilled the hole out so the dimple die will fit through it.  The die sits about 1/16 of an inch above the hardboard.

 
Rod-end Bearing Tool
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I made this rod end bearing installation tool from the example I saw on Sam Buchanan's RV-6 web page.  It is made from 1/2" PVC.

rebtool2.jpg (47189 bytes) I notched one end of the PVC to fit over the end of the rod end bearing.  Then cut a straight coupler in half and glued it over the notched end.  Then I glued a T on the other end for a handle.
 
Cleco Apron
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Wal-Mart, $2, enough said...

 
Bucking Bar for Flaps
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Here is my custom bucking bar.  I got the idea from Jerry Calvert, RV-6A builder...

flap_buck_bar.jpg (53225 bytes) Ii is actually the no-hole yoke for my Tatco hand squeezer, I just used the side as a bucking bar to buck the rivets holding the top and bottom skins together.
 
Debur the inside of control surface skins
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To debur the inside of the skins, I just spun the debur bit in my fingers. The speed debur tool is too hard to get in the tight space of the bend of the skin...

 
New pins for my Tatco Squeezer
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I went down to the local hardware store and bought three 1/4" hitch pins to replace the roll pins that came with my Tatco squeezer...   Worked Great!  I highly recommend this modification...

 
Rib positioning tool
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Simple tool for moving ribs around behind skins while drilling.  I used a 2x2 piece of wood about 2' long with a notch cut in it so I can grab the rib...